Take the larger figure in full
Of height (in hours at 400 m) and distance (in hours at 4–5 km), take the larger one in full.
Time, maps, your own crags and the next step after the course — so the tour doesn’t fail on the approach.
A typical walker: about 400 m of ascent per hour, 4–5 km of distance. Combine distance and height — don’t add both in full.
Of height (in hours at 400 m) and distance (in hours at 4–5 km), take the larger one in full.
Add half of the smaller figure. Result ≈ ascent time without breaks.
800 m of height and 6 km: 800 m = 2 h, 6 km ≈ 1.2–1.5 h. Larger in full (2 h) + half of the smaller (~0.7 h) ≈ 2.5–2.7 h.
On the descent: 600–700 m of height per hour, distance stays the same (4–5 km/h). Again the larger in full, half of the smaller.
Climbing time, changeovers and rappels come extra — this is only the walk-in and walk-out.
Official Swiss national map — contours, paths, rock. Accurate, free, in the browser.
Open ↗Approaches, tracks, times. Good for a first pass — always cross-check with topo and map.
Open ↗Avalanches and alpine weather (SLF) — relevant as soon as there’s snow, couloirs, or early/late season.
Open ↗Where I’ve been — and what’s next. Green is climbed, blue is planned. Click a pin or a card to zoom in.
Practise cams and nuts on crystalline rock first — granite, gneiss, porphyry cam more honestly than smooth limestone. Why is under Rock types. Then Plaisir tours, then more serious.
Baden-Baden
PracticeGood in the easy grades for practising cams and nuts — close, readable, forgiving if a piece doesn’t sit.
Murgtal
PracticeA hidden crag with two cracks. Practise cams on crystalline rock (gneiss, granite, porphyry) — it cams more honestly than smooth limestone.
Northern Black Forest
PracticePumprisse — classic crack ground for placing and climbing.
Schwäbische Alb
TourLimestone, often sport or mixed. Good day trips when the high mountains don’t play along.
Switzerland
Bad-weather plan BA fair-weather magnet — when the Alps are in cloud or storm, the Jura is often still dry and climbable.
Appenzell
TourA compact range with short approaches and lots of rock. A good next step after Plaisir starter tours.
Montafon / Rätikon
TourLimestone, long walls, classic alpine routes. More serious than the Jura or Donautal — take weather windows and rappels seriously.
Uri / Wallis
TourGranite at pass height — short approaches, cam terrain, often used as a trad and multi-pitch playground.
The classic for well-protected pleasure multi-pitch in the Alps. First filter: protection and approach, not the crux grade.
From about 1980 a line is usually “modern” (bolts, clearer line). Older than about 1950: often the big features, where you could protect then — the line can wander.
Grades, obligatory and p.a. are under Grading systems →
Next step after the multi-pitch course: lead yourself, build stances, rappel in real conditions — start on well-protected Plaisir lines.
Ask at your DAV section. Requirement: documented climbing experience, typically from the last 3–5 years — not just gym metres.
Course guideline: 4 kabanos and 2 bars per day sits well. 2 kabanos and 2 bars works — but it’s lean once the day gets long.
Full list under Packing list →
Fine small stones on the boulders at the base are a hint of rockfall. Helmet stays on; don’t belay needlessly under loose ground.
Gear and sequence: Packing list → · Rappelling → · Trad →
Area and timing tips from the DAV multi-pitch course — always check weather, approach and local conditions afresh.